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Friday 12 January 2024

New Year Quiz - Answers and Challenges


 I received a pleasing number of responses to my quiz, some complaining that it was ridiculously difficult, some that it was too easy, and some (correctly) identifying that the photo is misleading. On the other hand, the actual history involved is also very misleading, so I shall attempt to explain the background story, hopefully without causing unnecessary further irritation!

Straight away, let me announce that the city is Regensburg, which has been a major strategic river crossing on the mighty Danube since ancient times. Nowadays it is in Bavaria, though at various times in the past it was a free city. It has also been known as Ratisbon, which comes from an old Celtic name, Radasbona. The Romans built a major fort there in AD90, which they called CASTRA REGINA [fort on the (River) Regen].

My photo shows sections of several buildings, all with different dates and histories of rebuilding. This whole area is known locally as the Altes Rathaus, though which bit was the actual working administrative HQ of the city varied from time to time. In the picture, on the right, the pale-coloured buildings, including the foot of a tower, are the site of the very first Rathaus for the city, which was built in the mid-13th Century, close to the Roman fort and the commercial centre. The building on the left, which is a sort of mustard colour and was later known as the Reichssaal, was built as a posh new add-on to the Town Hall in the 1320s as a big assembly and function hall, appropriate to the dignity and aspirations of the thriving city.

The building in the angle of these two older buildings (with the ornate doorway) is called the Portalbau, added in 1408, and upgraded in the 1560s, to provide covered access between the two buildings. At this point, the story becomes easier to follow if I produce another picture, borrowed without permission from Google Maps.


Here you can see the Reichssaal, on the left, with its distinctive balcony looking onto Rathausplatz, and the original Rathaus location, along to the tower (which was rebuilt in the 1360s after a fire), with the Portalbau in between. 

During the 16th Century the Reichssaal became the preferred venue for the assemblies of the Holy Roman Empire, and from 1594 these Reichstag meetings only took place here. From 1663, the Perpetual Diet of the Holy Roman Empire was in permanent residence here, until Napoleon put a stop to the Empire.

To allow space for a functioning Town Hall for the city itself, the two wings of the Baroque town hall which you can see in the lower right corner of the Google aerial view were built in the 1660s and the 1720s. In this period, this was the Neues Rathaus, though in the 1930s a complete new administration centre for the city was built some distance from this site; this modern building, then, is truly the New Town Hall now. The Altes Rathaus now houses a fine museum and the main Tourist Information office for Regensburg.

 Apologies for the complicated story! In summary, the answers to the 3 questions in the quiz are:

(1) Regensburg

(2) The city built a new Town Hall next door to the old one because from 1663 to 1805 the Holy Roman Empire's Perpetual Diet was in constant session in the existing buildings!  

(3) My original photo shows several constructions, of different ages; they all form part of what is known as the Old Town Hall, though the location of the actual city management function changed from time to time under outside pressures!

For completeness, here is the modern Burgerbüro, some distance to the east:

My thanks to everyone who responded, in particular I received excellent answers from Jon Freitag, Dan Sarrazin, Martin S, nundanket, Cec Rhodes, Rittmeister Krefeld and Rigor Mort; after due deliberation, I decided that the best answer of all came from Count Goya - a splendid effort, with accurate historical information and humorous modern political analogies.

The noble Rittmeister also drew attention to the crossed-keys symbol, which appears in my photo at the top of this post, above both archways. Here's a close-up:


This symbol is a traditional Papal cipher, associated with St Peter and the Keys of Heaven (St Peter is the patron saint of Regensburg), and it has been in use as the arms of Regensburg since the 13th Century, so it is a useful clue. The slightly bad news is that it is also featured on the arms of well over 400 other towns and cities, including York, but no matter.


Interestingly, nobody who submitted an answer was interested in the prize, so the mugs will go to our village charity shop! I am alarmed to note that 4 of the entrants either have Covid or are recovering from a recent bout, which only increases my admiration. 


Thanks very much for your time and interest, everyone who read the blog post and/or took part!


8 comments:

  1. Sorry I missed the quiz but I wouldn't have known what it was anyway so... But thanks for the interesting explanation of what it is!

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    1. My pleasure - one does one's best! It's getting a bit late to wish you a Happy New Year, but all the very best anyway. In future I shall try to visit places which are straightforward enough for me to understand the history!

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    2. Thanks; and to you. I tend to feel that Happy New Year is OK to at least the end of January! And I suspect that almost everywhere probably has some weird contrariness below the superficial storyline so yours could be an interesting quest! ;-)

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  2. Happy New Year to all. I was brought up to think it almost remiss not to include New Year's felicitations in one's first dealings with anyone in the New Year, but find that from some indeterminate point (between DM's comment and this?), people begin to be surprised by it. I would be all for DM's calendar month based rule, but wonder whether there is a psychological unit of time shorter than a month, but longer than a fortnight during which the new year is New - psychological, because some important event in the early days of a year might sometimes shorten it. The perpetual diet of Regensburg presumably faced this problem many times over its life.

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    1. I agree with the extended January greetings window, but then I am a man of very little social skill. In an unhelpful sort of way, this reminds me of the problem presented by seeing someone you know, a good distance away, approaching along the street. I think this may have been more eloquently discussed previously by Billy Connolly (chief among my lifestyle gurus); the point is that they would think you were weird if you waved to them throughout the time they are coming towards you, so it is necessary to pretend that you have just seen them at some later moment. This requires some skill and judgement, since if you leave it too late you can cause offence by seeming to snub them. I freely confess I have very poor instincts for this stuff - I always assume that everyone else just knows how to handle what are probably life's less pressing courtesies. Maybe they teach this stuff at finishing school?

      Oh - and Happy New Year. I was tempted to share with you the fact that I had an aunt who was always on a Perpetual Diet, and it was always a different one (she was a "Woman's Realm" reader), though she never seemed to be any thinner. In later years, after she was long gone, her son (my cousin) reckoned that she ate the diet stuff in addition to her normal intake. To be fair, we do not know how big she would have got without her interest in diets.

      Nah - I've decided not to get into that story.

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  3. January can indeed consist of too many newly thin diet-people coming at you, Red Baron-like, out of a low sun and being fed up when you don't see them.

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  4. Hello old chap,

    Firstly, a belated happy new year to you! I did not enter the quiz but thought I would throw into the mix another ‘Crosse Keyes’ anecdote. Down Gracechurch Street in the city of London is a Wetherspoons called, yes you’ve guessed it - The Crosse Keyes. I cannot think of any known Papal connection but I can tell you that the building used to be a branch of Barclays Bank….

    All the best,

    DC

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    1. Hi David - all the best to you. Wetherspoons - hmmm - maybe this is comes from the tradition that few people ever mention Barclays Bank with blaspheming? One day people will wonder why there is a Wetherspoons called "The Tower of London".

      Here there once was a city, before it became a themed pub.

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