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Saturday 29 December 2018

Hooptedoodle #319 - Nostalgia Trip



Posts have been a bit sparse of late on this blog. No matter. One thing I had been meaning to say something about was a recent visit I made with my wife to Liverpool, my birthplace, at the start of December. We went only for a few days, and we weren't very lucky with the weather, but it was good fun, and I did a few things - mostly rather silly, personal things - that I've been meaning to do for years.

I have only one surviving relative in Liverpool these days - cousin Mark, with whom we met up for dinner one evening while we were there - so normally there are no pressing reasons to visit the place, apart from self-indulgence, and my last visit was in 2012. We stayed at the Campanile, which is very cheap and cheerful, at the Queen's Dock. We visited the cathedrals (on the wettest day I can remember) and trogged around the old city centre, with me trying to recall what old buildings used to be on particular sites in my day. Yes, I know - how pointless is that?

I have to say that the city is far cleaner and more prosperous than I remember it, but it is disturbing how much it has changed - I have a feeling that some of the change has lost a few things as well. Babies and bath-water come to mind.

I went to have a look at the house where I was born - well, all right, I wasn't born there at all, I was born at the Maternity Hospital (in Oxford Street?) like most other people from the South end, but I lived there from ages zero to 10.

6, Belvidere Road - that's Liverpool 8, Toxteth, if you insist, but it is certainly among the posher bits of Toxteth, and I suppose it's more accurate to refer to it as Princes Park. We got the bus from the city centre to Princes Avenue, and walked down to Belvidere, which had changed very little (though the houses look better-maintained, and some charitable soul has replaced the railings and gates, which obviously were not required to be thrown at Hitler after all).

We had a splendid walk through Princes Park to Sefton Park, and then through Sefton Park to my grandmother's old house in Mossley Hill. When I was a kid we used to do this walk (both ways, in fact) most fine Sundays, and I was keen to see it again. It always seemed an enormous distance to walk with small children, but in fact it's not nearly as far as I remembered - probably only a couple of miles each way.  It was a fairly dry day, and everything seemed very fresh and familiar. I haven't walked through Princes Park since the 1960s, I guess, but it hasn't changed much.

From my grandmother's old house we continued up Penny Lane to Smithdown, had a coffee and took the bus back into town. That's another one for the bucket shop list - I'm really pleased I did it, and I don't need to think about it any more!

We also took advantage of our only other dry day to travel by ferry across the Mersey to Seacombe. Then we walked along the riverside promenade past Wallasey as far as New Brighton, on the end of the Wirral Peninsula, complete with the Perch Rock Fort, which Turner painted in some of his wilder sessions, but the old Tower Ballroom, where as a youth I once saw Little Richard, is long gone. New Brighton was definitely looking a bit gone-to-seed - we took the Mersey Railway back under the river to James Street. Great walk - I was impressed by the number of fishermen on the promenade - when I lived in those parts there would have been nothing alive to catch in the Mersey, that's for sure!

On our last evening we went to the Philharmonic Hall in Hope Street, to see the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra in action. Marvellous. High spot of the concert for me was Stravinsky's Firebird, which is a great favourite of mine. The previous occasion on which I was in the Phil was probably Speech Day in my final year in the Sixth Form at Quarry Bank School. Hmmm.

Some photos follow - nothing too onerous, I hope.

Over the hills and faraway - travelling south on the M6 over Shap Fell. The Lake District is somewhere over to the right
It still surprises me that Liverpool has become a tourist centre...

Jesse Hartley's old port sometimes doesn't sit well with the new buildings - my father, his two brothers and their dad all worked at Liverpool Docks at various times - I wonder what they'd make of it now


6 Belvidere Road - my first home - we lived in the top flat (which I think is two apartments now). It looks better maintained now than it was back in my infancy. The street is quite elegant, and hasn't changed a lot, but the labyrinth of little terraces around the back - Miles St, Clevedon St, South St, Hawkstone St and so many others - real Toxteth - has been knocked down and replaced many years ago

Let us not speak of the purple dustbins...
Princes Park - scenes of childhood...
...and its lake, which once had rowing boats for hire
Linnet Lane - apart from the lack of my kid sister's pram and a few modern cars, looks about the same
Lark Lane - quite arty these days - leads to Aigburth and my old primary school at St Mick's
The cafe in the middle of Sefton Park - seems to have sprouted some modern wings, but recognisably the same place. I think it was painted cream, and I remember there was a Wall's Ice Cream man selling ices from a pedal-tricycle cart here on Sundays. Note the shadow of the Ghost of Christmas Past

The quiet end of Queen's Drive, Mossley Hill - this is the great ring road which loops around the city to Seaforth and Bootle in the North.
My Nan's old house, on the corner of Briardale Road and Herondale. She was still resident here when she died in 1980 - not much has changed, though someone has roofed over her backyard - how very odd?



Sefton Park's celebrated Palm House, a fabulous old facility which has been rescued from vandalism and general wear and tear numerous times over the years

The Peter Pan statue in Sefton Park - one of my earliest memories from childhood; in fact it has been shifted - it is now located near to the Palm House; as far as I remember, it used to be in the flower garden near the big lake.

This is something - very quirky building - Dovedale Road Baptist Church, where my parents were married in 1945. They had met at the youth club here. The building was completed (I think) in 1903, and by the perversity of history it had closed as a church about 6 weeks before our visit! Right opposite was Dovedale Rd Primary School, which included John Lennon and my cousin Dave among its alumni. Yes, I believe the church may have been designed by a madman.

Absolutely - THAT Penny Lane. Lucky to have kept its name - the city council was planning to change the names of all streets in the city which referred to families who were associated with slavery or slave-supported businesses - the plan was shelved when they realised that Penny Lane was one such, and that there would be a great many disappointed tourists if it had been called Nelson Mandela Street instead.
The Lady Chapel in Liverpool Anglican Cathedral. Speak it in whispers, but I was a member of the choir here when I was about 12 - that was until they found out what was wrong with it.
The Royal Iris - the latest of a great many Royal Irises - the ferry for Seacombe (Wallasey) - back in the day, the Seacombe ferry had a white funnel, the Birkenhead ferries had brick-red ones.

Wallasey Town Hall, looming above the River Walk


Nothing else to do now but wish everyone all the very best for the New Year. 2018 has definitely been a duff one for me and my family - we are hoping for rather better in 2019. Once again I regret to observe that I have been overlooked in the New Year Honours List, but I thought I'd share with you my great pleasure that John Redwood has been knighted, presumably for being a pain in the arse for so many years, and for services to xenophobia. How lovely. Gives me a warm feeling in my stomach - possibly dyspepsia?  

***** Late Edit *****

Penny Lane Supplement...

In response to Steve's comment, a couple of old pictures. Penny Lane is an old street in the Allerton area of Liverpool (Liverpool 18, in old money) which runs between Smithdown Place and Greenbank Park. Apart from the fact that it intersects with the road where my Nan used to live(!), it is not all that interesting. On the other hand, "Penny Lane" was the name of the old tram terminus which was at the intersection of Allerton Road, Smithdown Place, Church Road (Wavertree - where the Bluecoat School is), Elm Hall Drive and - well, Penny Lane. The area was known as "Penny Lane", mostly because that was what it said on the front of the trams and buses. As it says in the song, the shelter for the transport terminus is on a roundabout in the middle. That shelter has now been tarted up into a Beatles-themed place. The barber's shop still exists, though back in the 1960s it was owned by Roger Bioletti's granddad (Roger was a year below me at grammar school) - nowadays it, also, lives on the Beatles connection. The main point here is that both the shelter and the barber were, and still are, in Smithdown Place, which is the (sketchy) setting for the song, at the area which has been known for donkeys' years as "Penny Lane", though Penny Lane itself is only one of the streets which runs into that junction.

I may have explained that so brilliantly that even I can't understand it any more. Here are the pictures - all borrowed from elsewhere:

 
Bioletti's barber shop, Smithdown Place, 1960s


The shelter, in 1956 - looking in exactly the opposite direction to previous photo - this time looking along Allerton Road - the barber's shop must be just off the left edge of the picture

Somewhat later view of the shelter - circa 1970? - here we are looking towards Church Road, with Allerton Rd off to the right and Smithdown to the left, and Penny Lane itself directly behind us.
The actual song is a bit of a montage of boyhood memories - some poetic licence in there - the Fire Station is in Mather Avenue - a couple of miles away past Allerton Road, on the way to Garston - on the way, in fact, to McCartney's home at Forthlin Road, which is off Mather Avenue.

All the Beatle-theming and tourist exploitation is probably OK, but ironic to those of us old enough to recall that Liverpool youth in the 1960s was regarded by the local authorities as just as much of a pestilence as you would expect. Visitors today may be directed to the New Cavern in Mathew Street, but they will not see much information about the fact that the council closed the original place down the first real chance they got. Mind you, it was unhygienic and failed every possible H&S test you could think of, but it's nonetheless true that they had regarded it, and places like it, as blots on the official presentation of Liverpool the Commercial City (and former Second City of the Empire, if anyone could remember that). That particular rubber stamp must have been banged down with a lot of satisfaction. How times change. How attitudes are re-engineered to suit.

Slavery and Beat Clubs - choose your viewpoint to fit the times in which you live!

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16 comments:

  1. Thank you for sharing all of these wonderful photographs! I've read an awful lot about Liverpool, and it is neat to see pictures of places and things that are not necessarily in books about the city's history. . . or The Beatles.

    Happy New Year,

    Stokes

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    1. Happy New Year, Stokes - all the very best to you and yours. I've added some extra stuff to the post which you might find interesting!

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  2. An excellent and entertaining post... it chimes as I recently saw Mr McCartney performing "Penny Lane".. more detail please, is there still a barbers showing photographs?? Happy Christmas (if not too late) and a Happy New Year (if not too early) for 2019.. onwards an upwards..

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    1. Hi Steve - I've added a late edit to the post, with extra info. Did you see the James Corden thing with McCartney on TV? - initially I was reluctant to watch it, because I was afraid it would be tacky and awful, but I thought it was excellent - not a dry eye in the house! The live show at the end of that show (which is on YouTube, and probably on the BBC iPlayer somewhere) was performed in the Philharmonic Hotel, on the diagonally opposite corner from the Philharmonic Hall where I attended the concert - a pub much celebrated for good food and the traditions of the Liverpool Poets of yesteryear, though stuffed to the gunnels with students these days.

      Happy New Year. It should be an exciting year - apparently all those former colonies which we screwed for centuries are all just gasping to set up trade agreements with us, so it may be Indian Turkey for Christmas next year - certainly the farmers around here won't be able to afford to produce anything, as far as we can tell.

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    2. Hi Tony - thanks for that - shared it with daughter who is a far bigger Beatles fan than me (21 and she quite literally, without word of exaggeration, cried when she got her tickets for McCartney!) We did see the James Corden thing, and I have to say that I agree with you - a memorable bit of TV and I have to say it brought a bit of a lump to my throat....

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  3. An enjoyable read with great supporting images, it quite moved me at times, there is something powerful about going back to ones past is there not? Best wishes for the New Year Tony, hope things look up. Liverpool top of the league eh! I recall our discussion when Klopp was first appointed, he has worked wonders.

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    1. Happy New Year to you and the family, Lee. Klopp - hmmm - he's done well, but the world (especially The S*n) is waiting for him to fall on his bahookie (Scots; vernacular). Things could get very silly with fake expectation etc. It seems like only yesterday when (in 2014) Liverpool missed out in the last few games, while the papers debated the fact that they didn't deserve to keep Suarez, who was far too good for the club, so he should go to Arsenal [cue perennial references to biting, cheating etc]. All good fun - stuffing Arsenal is a rare pleasure, made all the sweeter by the rarity!

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  4. A most entertaining post. (I'd have said informative but sadly I know that I'll have forgotten almost everything in 1/2 hour )

    I left my hometown 46 years ago and haven't been back since late last century when we kidnapped my parents (more or less) to live near my brother in New Brunswick. When I was last back I could hardly recognize anything or find my way around. A handful oldest buildings date back to the 17thC and so on up to the 20thC but there was a huge boom after the WWII and it was still booming and growing when I left. It was also changing from a predominately English speaking city to predominately Quebecois city. With buildings changed, new roads, new suburbs and quarters, new streetnames and shops, new signs and everything in French, I had the feeling of being a stranger in my own home town when I went back to visit.

    Once in a long while I go onto google maps and zoom in the satellite photo to look at the old house and other spots around town. Some of the neighbouring houses which were post-war cookie cutter bungalows are now expanded and modernized but from the pictures #189 looks the same, even the Mapletree that grew from a whirlybird that my brother planted is still there and I'd bet there are still long lost toy soldiers dug in deep in some corner of the garden.

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    1. Nice comment Ross - thanks for this. Stalking our past lives through Google Maps is a strange new pastime - I do a bit of this myself. Visiting the home town after 50 years away is a funny mixture - I can enjoy the odd thing I recognise, take some vicarious pride in the success and the properity, but I can also duck out on the bits I don't care for (or don't understand) - it isn't my home now - I'm just another tourist.

      Revisiting places can be risky, too - in abut 1990 I was on a business trip to attend a conference at La Defense, Paris, and one afternoon I took some time off to walk into Neuilly to see the place where my maternal grandfather lived (with his second family) in the 1960s. When I used to go to stay with them, I was very impressed by the high-quality modern apartments and the park-like surroundings - he lived on the Boulevard Bineau, and his neighbours included a convent and a small US military hospital - I thought it was just wonderful. When I revisited the place in 1990, it was smaller and dingier than I remembered, the buildings had not aged well and the Bd Bineau had become yet another expressway, the main road to Pontoise. I was very disillusioned, also I was wearing new shoes, which destroyed my feet, so I sincerely wished I hadn't bothered!

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  5. Oh, mate, this is brilliant! And you are lucky, I've lived in the same town since I was a kid, and I barely recognise it now. My missus hasn't lived in Irvine, Ayrshire, where she was brought up, for forty years, and she still feels closer to it than I do to my home town. I've just moved out further into the sticks to get away from it.

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    1. Hi Chris - only once, about 12 years ago, I went to a high school reunion dinner. It was interesting, in a way, but I will never go to another! Apart from getting to see at first hand how decrepit my contemporaries had become, it gave an interesting view of the divide between the stayers and the leavers. A great many of the guys from my year at school were very successful, and travelled far afield - a good many senior academics from universities around the UK, directors of multinationals - an impressive roll of (supposed) honour for one of the city's top schools, from an age when upward mobility was on the increase (the burgeoning meritocracy) and youngsters were no longer expected to settle down in the same street as their parents. The interesting people at the reunion were the group who had stayed on locally - through personal choice, family connections or (in many cases) lack of the qualifications needed to go on the nation-wide tour. These guys had remained in Liverpool - among the most respected and respectable cohort of their generation, locally, and had grown up to become regional managers of big firms, heads of the family business, civic leaders, pillars of the community. Though they didn't feature on the academic achievement ladder which I was brought up to focus upon, they were now the people who ran their native city and influenced the entire area. They also still knew each other, and were genuine residents, rather than posturing visitors like the rest of us. The local branch of the meritocracy obviously still worked extremely well, though it had been off my personal radar for years.

      Meritocracy? I regret to admit that I left Liverpool at 18 primarily because I really couldn't get on with my father - which is sad, but a fact nonetheless. Oh well.

      One thing from my recent trip which I found a little depressing (and I have no idea why) is that the Great Charlotte Street site of the old Blackler's department store from my boyhood is now occupied by a Wetherspoon's pub, named The Richard John Blackler in honour of the store's founder. Maybe that's a fitting monument, but I'm not sure! Commemorating ancient history becomes less comfortable when the ancient history was within my own lifetime...

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    2. Interesting that. I haven't seen any of my schoolmates since the day I left, but I did go to one of Pauline's school reunions. That would be about 12 years ago, as I think it was the year they all turned 50. That seemed to be the opposite of your experience - the ones who had moved away had got on well and those who had stayed had 'ordinary' jobs. There did seem to be a bit of tension between the two groups, as if the stayers resented the others for having abandoned the town or thought they were flaunting their success by coming back for the reunion.

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  6. A lovely and thought provoking post Tony...
    On my rare visits back home to Edinburgh ( for some reason I still seem to refer to it as home even after being away for 35 years),I am always struck by the juxtaposition between continuity and extreme change... I walk down streets where I grew up and- as you noted- not much has changed bar the colour of the rubbish bins.
    But when I turn to cut past the old playing fields... there is a shiny new housing estate!
    Change of course must happen...we have changed so why not the environment of our past... it is still a surprise... but fortunately at times it can be a delight...

    I always make a bee line for the Castle... I have no idea how many times that I have visited it over the years but it always has a calming effect looking over Auld Reekie from that high vantage point...

    A happy and prosperous new year to you and yours

    All the best. Aly

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    1. Thanks Aly - all the very best to you.

      My relationship with Edinburgh is going the same way - I left in 2000 to come and live at the Front of Beyond in East Lothian, after many years of residing in the city, and now I go there less and less, and become increasingly confused when I do! When you leave a place you have lived for a long time, you have to face up to the fact that you are now a visitor, immediately, and follow the traffic signs like a good'un - if I drive around Edinburgh based on what I remember I will fall foul of changed bus lanes, one-way systems (aaargh!) and speed limits, and the by the strange black holes which were introduced by the installation of the tramway.

      The Castle is really good - must go back (out of season) - someone (it might have been Patrick Geddes, but probably wasn't) said you had to go and stand on the Castle battlements to appreciate Edinburgh's true place in the Forth Valley. Whoever it was, I wouldn't argue with that.

      I have no idea quite why my poor (Scottish) wife didn't bash me on the head in Liverpool, as I tried to engage her in my ponderings over where exactly in Lord Street Bunney's store or the Bon Marche used to be, or when I insisted on a pilgrimage to the site of the great model shop of the old days, Hobbies (which was in Tarleton St).

      Like all modern cities, Liverpool made me wonder why the world needs quite so many phone shops, cheap clothes shops, greetings cards shops, branches of Starbucks etc. Perhaps the next recession will sort this out a bit.

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  7. Fascinating insight into the city there. I must admit that all I ever get to see is the airport these days. I should probably arrange to properly visit the city.

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    1. Bonne Annee, M. Le Duc - all the best to you. I am currently a bit stuck with FoB - I'll email you. Just issues to do with the level of hassle involved in very big games... (same as last year, in fact).

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