“I
can’t afford to live, but I guess I’d better try,
‘Cause
the undertakers got a union, and it costs too much to die”
Jimmy
Witherspoon, Tougher than Tough
This morning’s blood-pressure workout was
with the Halifax. I made the ridiculous mistake of ringing them up to sort out
a problem. The girl I spoke to was polite and correct, but completely paralysed
by rules and security checks. Eventually, I regret to say, I hung up the phone
while she was speaking, but not before I had spent some pounds on the
premium-number call.
The problem, you see, is that my father
received a letter from Halifax this week to advise him that my mother has set
up Online Banking, and will thus be able to see the details of joint accounts
he has with her, but to reassure him that she will not be able to see any accounts
which are solely his. If he wishes to discuss any aspect of this, there is a
number he can call, and they even offer him the option of a repeat letter in
Braille, or in large print (pardon?).
Unfortunately, my father is unable to act
on this letter since he died in 2008, a fact which is well known to Halifax
since they were involved in all the probate processes, and transferred all joint
accounts into my mother’s name at that time. My mother was a little upset by
the letter – mostly on a point of principle, I think – but, since she is a bit
frail and very deaf, and since I have registered Power of Attorney for her
financial dealings with the Lloyds Group (which includes Bank of Scotland and
Halifax), she asked me to deal with it.
Not so fast. Apparently Lloyds Group no
longer have any record of my Power of Attorney – at least not one that the young
lady I spoke to could find. Still, she did her very best to help me. She took
me through some long-winded security procedure related to my own accounts at
Halifax, which proved that I am who I said I was (which is a relief), but she was
still unable to gain authority to change any of my mum’s accounts without
speaking to my mum (who, as mentioned, is deaf and was also not present).
You see, said the girl, we will have marked
the records of any customer who has passed away, and you should not have
received this letter. Yes, I said, I understood that, though whether they have
failed to code the record correctly, or have subsequently lost the code, or
whether the analyst who designed this particular letter failed to make
reference to the code is a matter of very faint academic interest, and is not
our problem. The fact that they somehow have lost the details of my Power of
Attorney is also puzzling, but mostly
just irritating, since they cannot help me as a result. Perhaps, despite all
these problems, the girl could make a note of the account number, check that
the customer is, in fact, officially dead, and ask someone not to send out any
more letters which are potentially upsetting, apart from being further proof –
if proof be needed – of a level of incompetence which is already regarded as
proverbial by customers and the public at large.
Is this account still active, asks the girl?
Well, no – it is certainly empty, and if it still exists it will have been
transferred to my mother in 2008. Ah, says the girl, empty is not the same as
closed. Again, I say, we are straying into areas which are the internal problem
of the Halifax, and I am neither answerable for, nor interested in, the state
of their admin systems – and at this point I hung up.
I accept, of course, that I am probably the donkey |
Outcome? Well, I reckon my father may well
receive further letters in future, which we shall just shred respectfully. Why
do we bother?
Why are we still stuck with having these
buffoons sit on our money when they provide us with no service or added value
of any sort, other than giving us hassle and irritation on a regular basis? We
are stuck, my friends, because there is nowhere else we could take the money
which is any better. Though Lloyds Group are (literally) unrewarding people to
deal with, they are better than some of the alternatives. Eventually, you just
have to laugh and shrug it off – I am laughing and shrugging as I type (which
is not easy).
If Halifax cannot manage to understand that
one of their customers has died, and if they are constrained by their internal
rules such that they cannot arrange to fix this, then I could report it to the
Data Protection commissioners but – to be honest – really can’t be bothered.
That would only be heaping up yet more irritation. If they were fined – and Lloyds
Group are not short of the odd fine at present – which lot of interested
parties would have to meet the cost? The customers, perhaps?…
Let it lie – move on. As yet, this is
nothing – the service levels and the mistakes we suffer at the hands of
automated institutions will continue to degrade at an accelerating rate in the
coming years – you may (to use an opportune phrase) bank on it. I have been
there. I have seen the beginning of the nightmare.
We had several issues to do with the Lasting Power of Attorney for, and subsequent death of my mother in law. Royal Bank of Scotland initially refused to accept the LPA, thus suggesting that the bank regards itself as a higher power than the Court of Protection. But perhaps their finest hour came four months after she had entered residential care and a few days after her death (of which we had informed them) when they rang the family home and asked to speak to her. On the morning of her funeral!
ReplyDeleteGreat story - RBS are certainly one example which are worse than Lloyds Group - over the last three years we have gradually shifted all the family's money, and all business and trust monies, out of RBS. They could not care less, of course.
DeleteOne day we'll find out what exactly they do to the staff of these places, to make them like this. We must take care never to let it happen again.
I had my own Victor Meldrew moment in Barclays this week - whilst queuing to pay in some cash (only two people in front of me) I was asked by THREE different staff members what I was doing there and could I use one of their machines to pay in. I explained that I was in my bank and knew exactly why I was there and politely told them to mind their own business.
ReplyDeleteWhen I got to the desk the cashier asked if everything was alright and quite uncharacteristically I said no and then proceeded to rant about the new Barclays policy of hassling their customers in the bank. As I left I was accosted by yet another staff member who claimed to be the manager who asked me if I understood why they were asking customers to use the machines. I said it was probably to save the bank money by cutting back on staff and he answered yes!
It’s this sort of blatantly poor customer service that is quite gob-smacking to someone of my generation but it seems that the younger generation have no problem either enforcing it or accepting it either.
Did you ever see the Steve Martin re-make of “Father of the Bride”? There’s a great scene where he has a flip out in the supermarket because what he wants to buy is pre-packed in a certain quantity and he wants less (I think it was bread rolls). If you haven’t seen it Google ‘Steve Martin hot dog buns’. It’s a warning to all of us of a certain age…
Excellent - give 'em hell, Ian.
DeleteThe bank branches seem to gear up their public face to suit what they think their local customers require/deserve. Sometimes when I am in Dunbar I visit the Bank of Scotland branch there. They are, at least, fairly friendly, but on one occasion, after standing in a queue for twenty minutes, I was more than a little miffed when the 14-year-old cashier asked me "Well, what are you up to today, then?" while processing my pay-in cheques.
"I thought I might go and stand in the bank for half an hour," I said - whoosh! - they've heard it all before, and never understood any of it.
In the Duns branch, I have been told by the cashier that i might get a phone call from their marketing people, to get my view on how well the staff had served me, and would i please say something nice about them?
My most bizarre banking experience came when I very briefly transferred my business to Barclays. A sad mistake. Barclays (at that time, at least) had only one branch in Scotland - it was, admittedly, in St Andrew's Square, but it was officially a "country branch" and was staffed accordingly. In summer, I frequently gave up on the lunchtime queues and tried again later, because the place was stuffed with Australian backpackers and American tourists who had been misguided enough to use Barclays as their supplier of choice for sterling travellers' cheques (remember those?). Barclays provided me with a steady stream of Personal Account Managers, none of whom i ever saw twice and all of whom were obviously hoping to get another, better job quite soon. Once, during a periodic review meeting, the incumbent PAM said to me, "If I were you, to be honest, I wouldn't bank with Barclays - we provide a rubbish service in Scotland."
One of the very few honest men I ever spoke to in a bank.
Cheers - Tony
I wouldn't bank with Barclays either but the idea of trying to move accounts (plus our business account) fills me with dread - of course they know that!
DeleteThis is the link to that Steve Martin clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIHLUxzRr8
I worked for ... one of the organisations you mentioned for a little over 30 years before I escaped into an honest profession. What did I do? Well, apologise mostly. Usually for things that had gone wrong when I had no way of finding out how or why and even less opportunity to put right. The 'works' are so hidden under layers of technology and cost saving that the poor beggars that actually talk to customers are as impotent as the customers themselves.
ReplyDeleteSo unfortunately, when a bank clerk utters the immortal phrase "I can only apologise..." it is almost certainly true. So use the ATMs - at least they don't have to try and sell you stuff while they're apologising.