Napoleonic, WSS & ECW wargaming, with a load of old Hooptedoodle on this & that


Saturday 1 May 2021

Some Figure Paleontology - Back in the Old Boxes...

 On the phone yesterday with Stryker, the topic of vintage Hinton Hunts came up, as it tends to. In particular, I was interested in the Hinton Hunt French Napoleonic Grenadier à Cheval, which was made in 2-piece and OPC forms. I was vaguely aware (that's "vague" by normal standards, not necessarily mine) that I have a decrepit unit of ex-Eric Knowles OPC Gr-à-Ch in one of the Old Boxes, so I determined to have a dig in there and see what I actually have. Knowledge is power.

I was pretty sure that my unit was mixed - I thought that most of them are Alberkens - or 20mm Minifigs of some sort (I'm not good at distinguishing between these - I have always sort of assumed that the ones which look a bit like Hintons are Alberkens, and that the ones which don't aren't). I also knew that some of them were different, and assumed that they must be Hintons.

Having got my coffee level to the required threshold, I tied a rope around my waist, donned my head torch and set off on my adventure. Box "J" is the one containing ex-Eric French cavalry - I tell you so that you may remind me next time I do this. In there I was surprised to find that my Gr-à-Ch are not Hinton Hunts at all, but are all what I had assumed to be Alberkens (I would welcome any more definite identification). They come in two varieties, as I shall attempt to show. I gave them a good wash, and attempted some photos.

 
Here, on the left, is a single example of the original figure, with two examples of the modified one. Someone, as you will see, has had a serious go at the modifications - replacement sword blade and scabbard, an added musket and a superior paint job. Definitely the same horse, though.


 
From the front, the difference is surprising - the figures on the right are much wider, have a sword arm which is away from the body and are much more detailed. Hmmm.

I've now checked a couple of places online, and it seems that the Alberken OPC Gr-à-Ch was a pretty close copy of the HH model, which these patently are not. Maybe Minifigs produced a separate design? Maybe these are something else altogether? I am interested by the very different stature, the replacement sword-blade, stuck-on musket and (I think) scabbard. Has someone just smartened these up, or am I looking at two different generations of the same figure? Interesting. The horse, which is definitely not an HH clone, has an unusual configuration - the hindquarters are a bit low-slung (short back legs - what my Grandma used to call "Ducks' Disease") and I am not at all convinced about my previous assumptions about Alberken/Minifigs.

I am happy to accept that I'm probably not going to be able to do much with these, but would like to know what they are, and who is likely to have done the modifications. Just out of interest, like.

Speaking of ex-Eric soldiers, I have now washed and cleaned up the next "cannonfodder" refurb batch, being Hinton Hunt French line infantry from exactly that source. They are now on bottletops, and in project boxes, ready for work, but I shall not start them immediately. I intend to get to them before four years, however.



9 comments:

  1. I don't know what they are Tony but they are very smart with a definite Gilder type paint job. Do you have enough to make up a unit?

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  2. Didnt Peter Gilder when he worked very briefly for Mini Figs get warned off for copying Hinton Hunt. Plus Gilder and Neville Dickenson briefly made and paint batches of figures for wargamers before they parted company. Im not saying they are Gilder early casts but the style of painting is definitely Gilder's .Either way you lucky so and so.

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  3. These are interesting figures Tony...
    Is a shame you have so few... maybe they can be a general’s escort.

    All the best. Aly

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    1. Unless I can repeat the mods to the rest of the figures, myself [hysterical giggling], it looks like I won't get any more, so something along those lines would be interesting. Thanks Aly.

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  4. They could become the Elite Gendarmes....

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    1. Hey - now you're talking - I must check out just what these guys did...!

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  5. An interesting post Tony - I enjoy reading this sort of thing. Must say those two on the right look vastly superior, the chap at left looks somewhat corpulent by comparison ( or is that just the paint job?) and the difference between the bearskin detail is chalk and cheese. Roughly when would these figures date from?

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