tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post8662578888632124740..comments2024-03-27T15:59:11.066+00:00Comments on Prometheus in Aspic: ECW - Victory Without QuarterMSFoyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-87329846712161387542012-03-28T13:54:10.705+01:002012-03-28T13:54:10.705+01:00Hi,
I used to play ECW games with a bunch of Seal...Hi,<br /><br />I used to play ECW games with a bunch of Sealed Knot veterans. We settled on Forlorn Hope rules as being the best representation of Civil War battle. We had many cracking games under those rules, always fun, never slow and they could handle some big games with no problems. Give them a try Foy, if I was to play ECW today I'd go right back to them.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Lee.'Lee.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02728400013024811279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-68349428256995583552012-03-28T00:30:49.237+01:002012-03-28T00:30:49.237+01:00Best of luck with your search Foy and best of luck...Best of luck with your search Foy and best of luck with the wily Cunningham.Conrad Kinchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683395740934527502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-5884277049293725492012-03-25T18:11:34.193+01:002012-03-25T18:11:34.193+01:00I didn't look at 1644 because I was warned off...I didn't look at 1644 because I was warned off it by a couple of friends. The rule sets which seem to have the most devoted followings, as far as I could make out, are DBR (which is a kind of world standard - I have it on order but haven't studied it yet), Forlorn Hope (not the least of the claims made for it is that it isn't DBR(!) - I don't have a view on that) and Civile Actions and VwQ, both of which are loved passionately as fun games by their fans. I'll take any of these seriously!MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-35949964590388750422012-03-25T14:22:42.205+01:002012-03-25T14:22:42.205+01:00I'll be interested to see where you end up wit...I'll be interested to see where you end up with this. I've been (at least in theory) looking for an ECW set for a few years now. You don't mention Foundry's 1644, i looked at them and didn't take to them. They do, however, feature an excellent campaign system (which is the reason i originally bought them) that i thoroughly recommend. I can see it working well for an AWI campaing too, which is a bonus. I suspect i'll go with Terry Wise's set (which strikes me as quite simple and easily tweaked) until i get my hands on a copy of Forlorn Hope (which is the set recommended by every ECW expert i've consulted). Cheers.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09872820354048836577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-43712836538204964382012-03-25T10:22:03.857+01:002012-03-25T10:22:03.857+01:00Hi John - absolutely! Having suggested the use of ...Hi John - absolutely! Having suggested the use of Wesencraft, I've been swotting up, and I keep having that "just a minute - don't fancy that!" moment. I went and had a look at the Pike & Shot period rules in his Practical Wargaming book, and they look better (on a quick squint). I can't remember which book is earlier - I guess that the Pike and Musket book is the improved version, but some of the improvements are in the direction of early WRG. As you say, it'll be OK on the day. It is unlikely I'll have the computerised VwQ debugged and running smoothly by then, but I might.... I'll have my netbook with me, anyway.<br /><br />There was a time when I'd be sheepish about letting anyone see my bottom-of-the-range netbook, but nowadays I carry it with pride just because it isn't an iPad (and it doesn't overheat). Which isn't to say I don't secretly covet an iPad. Cheers - TonyMSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-15266897686424894092012-03-25T09:07:43.759+01:002012-03-25T09:07:43.759+01:00Well, the table and figures are laid out ready (mi...Well, the table and figures are laid out ready (might have over-dressed the table a bit!!)but like you can't decide on rules, I too have read lots inc Warhammer, for God's sake, again don't care for single figure figure removal, my main trouble is that I'm fixated on Fire & Fury style rules, one D10 and simple chart (not keen on Nap variant) but I'm sure we'll come to an agreement on the day ( only 2 days to go).Looking forward to it.old johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13939079093965317317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-16667799513994510532012-03-25T06:59:38.666+01:002012-03-25T06:59:38.666+01:00Thanks Ross - that's valuable input. One spin-...Thanks Ross - that's valuable input. One spin-off of trying to automate something is you find holes in the logic (for example, as I sit here I still have not found what the blazes artillery do in a melee in VwQ), so it's a useful additional exercise in understanding. I've also looked seriously at John Armatys' "Pike & Shot" rules (Dodo Publications), Trevor Raymond's "A Splendid Victory" and a number of others, including "Charge Pikes" and another game called "Charge Yr Pikes" - naturally, I can't remember which was which, but now I come to check I recall that Wesley Rogers' game is the one with the Later-WRG style casualties, with double hit on a 6 (which is a system I'm comfortable with), and is another set I intend to give a serious try to. I'm aware of Basic Impetus, though I haven't seen it, and I have had a look at the Perfect Captain offerings - I believe they are magnificent, but I haven't got my head around them yet - the "Civile Actions" game looks best for very small actions, but I wasn't brave enough (yet) to get into the heavier-weight Spanish Fury - Battle module.<br /><br />You are right - earnest is the word I was looking for. It must be a time of life thing - I find anger more readily available.<br /><br />Regards - TonyMSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-83186618520755702122012-03-25T02:24:03.175+01:002012-03-25T02:24:03.175+01:00We played a couple of games with these rules last ...We played a couple of games with these rules last year and I enjoyed them. I found them better as a 2 player game than a 6 player one due to one 1 brigade being active at a time but I don't think that is a factor here. We had to improvise for the Scots and for non-standard units but both were easily handled. <br /><br />Since we were trialing various rules sets, we used an ordinary set of playing cards with a cross reference sheet. Though we were thinkimng about printing up business cards.<br /><br />The one I liked best was Charge Pikes by Wesley Rogers. We had to use some form of casualty markers since all of our figures were mounted 4 to a base. We only got 1 game in before the ECW quietly faded to oblivion again. I'd be tempted now to try one of the adaptations of Basic Impetus which also available free.<br /><br />btw perhap "in earnest" vs "in anger"?Ross Mac rmacfa@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04053555991679802013noreply@blogger.com