tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post1521600670927258092..comments2024-03-27T15:59:11.066+00:00Comments on Prometheus in Aspic: Waterloo Wargame, Duke of York's Headquarters - 1965 MSFoyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-57871357621658739412019-12-16T12:22:35.937+00:002019-12-16T12:22:35.937+00:00Thanks very much for this, rw - much appreciated. ...Thanks very much for this, rw - much appreciated. MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-69392830236556204902019-12-16T10:03:53.363+00:002019-12-16T10:03:53.363+00:00Hi!
Don't panic. The Alamy Website allows to ...Hi!<br /><br />Don't panic. The Alamy Website allows to use these pictures it for 'editorial use'. And this is what your website does. You are not printing posters and t-shirts and you are not selling them.<br /><br />Second, your use of a single photo of an old book in a context where you write something about the content of that book is covered by fair use. You are using your own photo that shows a small part of a book, not a photo by someone else.<br /><br />And the copyrigth ends in the near future. The way the scenes or the content in these pictures is not 'created', they are only snapshots. So they are not 'artistic' by any means (no models, no special arrangements by the photographer and so on), they are not 'art'. The copyright for photos of that kind finally ends 50 years after publishing (in the EU). The book that you showed above is from 1969. Two weeks from now, with the start of the year 2020, there will be no copyright for this pictures anymore. Then they will be in the public domain.<br /><br />Maybe they are allready in the public domain if anyone finds an earlier place of publishing as an evidence. Can't imagine that these photos weren't taken for a newspaper and published promptly in the year 1965.<br /><br />rwThe real McKayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06630735635398719596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-43301126321576175302019-12-15T10:04:49.367+00:002019-12-15T10:04:49.367+00:00Mad Padre,
Eric was a member of the Inns of Court...Mad Padre,<br /><br />Eric was a member of the Inns of Court Regiment (RAC), better known as The Devil’s Own because their original members were mostly lawyers.<br /><br />Bob CorderyRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-42414322706054824362019-12-14T15:21:42.793+00:002019-12-14T15:21:42.793+00:00Excellent - looking forward to see what you've...Excellent - looking forward to see what you've got there.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-74385057960333240212019-12-14T13:31:30.504+00:002019-12-14T13:31:30.504+00:00Jim (Foy) - the copies you sent me start at March ...Jim (Foy) - the copies you sent me start at March '65, but the big review is in April '65 which I also have.. give me a few days and i'll scan it and put up an image..Steve-the-Wargamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07077311120172727690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-55658336077279996092019-12-13T11:30:18.949+00:002019-12-13T11:30:18.949+00:00Sorry, I am afraid I always dressed like that unle...Sorry, I am afraid I always dressed like that unless completely casual. Never knew what the trend was so didn't know if I was ahead or behind!<br /><br />I found some newsletters from 1964/5 but tantalisingly there is a short mention in Jan 1965 issue that there would be more details of the event in February which I can't find. I fear that the remaining issues from the 60's succumbed to damp as I don't think I gave them away.Jim Walkleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14560538077308114604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-58310806198712908672019-12-08T21:48:48.614+00:002019-12-08T21:48:48.614+00:00Thanks very much Jim (and Steve) for this - I see ...Thanks very much Jim (and Steve) for this - I see you in the photos - you were very smartly turned out! Was it officially formal, or did you always dress like that? I'm keen to get a few more names for faces - that small bearded chap sitting at the end of the table looks more familiar all the time. <br /><br />Take care with the spiders etc, but if you find anything, please let me know.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-38066315321261065602019-12-08T21:44:07.006+00:002019-12-08T21:44:07.006+00:00I guess this really was a special occasion - must ...I guess this really was a special occasion - must have been well planned and publicised. Not a woman in the house, as far as I can see - you don't suppose they refused to let them in...?MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-63933576690736187542019-12-08T21:42:56.321+00:002019-12-08T21:42:56.321+00:00I would guess so - with port rather than bottled b...I would guess so - with port rather than bottled beer.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-34938451233442308482019-12-08T21:42:13.618+00:002019-12-08T21:42:13.618+00:00Could well be - they don't seem to have sheets...Could well be - they don't seem to have sheets all over the table, so maybe there was strict protocol about keeping everything neat and tidy.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-4727327593139924302019-12-08T15:57:57.802+00:002019-12-08T15:57:57.802+00:00Prompted by Steve the Wargamer I must confess to a...Prompted by Steve the Wargamer I must confess to appearing in two pictures. I am the bespectacled youth behind the fellow with the opera glasses and also to the left of the top left picture about 3 rows from the table - not so much hair now but just as handsome :-). As a hoarder I wonder if I still have the details of the game. A quick visit to my loft under the pretence of looking for Christmas decorations did not produce anything but there is still a slight hope. Unfortunately, at my age, I have bursts clearing old stuff out to help those who come after me. My recollections of the day are sparse I am afraid. It seems to me that I was impressed greatly by the spectacle but never really sure what was happening. My strongest memory was of buying several boxes of Airfix 7th cavalry to be used as ACW and one wag saying that I had enough for a whole cavalry division. I too believe that Neville Dickinson was as identified but doubt that the balding chap was David Chandler. I can't put a name to him unfortunately. <br /><br /> All of which was a nice meander down memory lane but not really what everyone wants to know. When time permits I shall fight the spiders and dust in the loft once more and report if there are any findings.Jim Walkleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14560538077308114604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-8376928677372305632019-12-08T10:55:00.937+00:002019-12-08T10:55:00.937+00:00Foy - I have been emailing with an old school game...Foy - I have been emailing with an old school gamer for years by the name of Jim (Walkley) and I seem to remember him telling me he featured in one of those pictures (bottom left if I remember rightly)... must send him a link to the article as he may have some memories of the event to add to the background...Steve-the-Wargamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07077311120172727690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-26688969778029642342019-12-08T02:21:47.035+00:002019-12-08T02:21:47.035+00:00Fascinating how large the game is, and with so man...Fascinating how large the game is, and with so many players for back in 1965. The rather formal dress (suits, ties, vests) always looks so... civilized! :-)Gonsalvohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16531623280789478092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-86936133998133215012019-12-07T18:23:43.092+00:002019-12-07T18:23:43.092+00:00Extraordinary. I can't identify the cap badge...Extraordinary. I can't identify the cap badge of the one uniformed player. Would that all players were so well dressed. Presumably there was a decent cheese board laid on.Mad Padrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410143683610813671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-23861561885920039542019-12-07T18:04:03.883+00:002019-12-07T18:04:03.883+00:00Someone commented re what rules were used and I am...Someone commented re what rules were used and I am making an assumption here but I have just obtained copy of the BMSS Wargame Section rules for circa 1813 that were published in July 1966. Could these be the rules? They certainly would fit the time frame. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-8068260390437585432019-12-06T22:57:09.625+00:002019-12-06T22:57:09.625+00:00A squint at the Unfashionably Shiny blog reveals t...A squint at the Unfashionably Shiny blog reveals that the BMSS Waterloo anniversary bash in 1965 took place at the Rembrandt Hotel (Thurloe Place, Knightsbridge) in June of that year, and featured a wargame played between Bill Pearce and Peter Gilder, and umpired by Bob Gould. So it looks as though I have a couple of events confused here. The BMSS event, naturally placed a lot of emphasis on manufacturers of model soldiers, including (according to a contemporary report by "Quatrebras") one Marc Hinton.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-45261602820664990052019-12-06T21:23:34.841+00:002019-12-06T21:23:34.841+00:00We need some people to write in and say "I am...We need some people to write in and say "I am the little boy in the school cap, behind La Belle Alliance" or similar - in the shot of the end of the table (middle pic on right hand side) the man with the beard looks like someone I should know - writer? That's bugging me. And the younger man next to him looks a bit like a VIP of some sort. That bearded guy - I know his face...MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-70838486075937702112019-12-06T21:20:30.170+00:002019-12-06T21:20:30.170+00:00Maybe - I can't see enough of him to make it o...Maybe - I can't see enough of him to make it out.MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-35672215375796923312019-12-06T21:19:39.962+00:002019-12-06T21:19:39.962+00:00Interesting shout - could be - bear in mind that D...Interesting shout - could be - bear in mind that D G Chandler was 31 in 1965, and this chap maybe looks older than that?MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-63490423468534544662019-12-06T21:09:05.086+00:002019-12-06T21:09:05.086+00:00The balding chap in the centre of the lower left p...The balding chap in the centre of the lower left picture, to the left of Tony Bath looks like David Chandler, but I could well be wrong. Fascinating pictures anyhow. Springinsfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14088330681756351208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-3313750762369275492019-12-06T20:58:54.815+00:002019-12-06T20:58:54.815+00:00Is there any chance that the tallish chap with his...Is there any chance that the tallish chap with his back to the camera in the top left-hand photo, just below the near end of the overhead lighting (with a trace of bear under his chin?) could be Peter Gilder?Wellington Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08295966991101976478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-10528243768903844572019-12-06T20:48:28.155+00:002019-12-06T20:48:28.155+00:00Mark - thanks for this. The Telegraph site wanted ...Mark - thanks for this. The Telegraph site wanted me to sign up to allow access (I could never bring myself to do such a thing!), but the Brooklyn site link worked OK. You can apply your own date to the lady's hairstyle! DF may well have been there, but he also staged his own 1965 anniversary game, which was played twice - once in Southampton and once in London, which I think was separate from the DoY HQ game. There was also a 1975 game, but the hairstyle doesn't look like 1975 to me! MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-80646053193177431512019-12-06T20:37:27.805+00:002019-12-06T20:37:27.805+00:00Donald Featherstone is also pictured at this event...Donald Featherstone is also pictured at this event? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/10492209/Donald-Featherstone-obituary.html<br />And https://brooklynwargaming.com/2013/09/04/donald-featherstone-1918-2013/Mark, Man of TINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485063133593455522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-66285396602037243332019-12-06T20:35:47.676+00:002019-12-06T20:35:47.676+00:00I got an email from Dan S, who suggests that the m...I got an email from Dan S, who suggests that the man on the left of the photo of 3 (Ney?) is Neville Dickinson, before he went grey(!).MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7111053985478999734.post-1979093883503225502019-12-06T20:34:32.040+00:002019-12-06T20:34:32.040+00:00No idea, but the units are big - infantry about 30...No idea, but the units are big - infantry about 30 men each!MSFoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14470241067504971068noreply@blogger.com